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The other Outpost

The other Outpost — Carrizozo, New Mexico — June 19, 1999 — photo by Mark Weber

The Thursday Jazz Radio Show

November 30, 2o17 Jazz @ Noon every Thursday (starts at 12:07 after the satellite news) Host MARK WEBER KUNM Albuquerque, USA 89.9 FM (Mountain Standard Time) also streaming on the web Current time zone offset: UTC*/GMT -6 hours (*Coordinated Universal Time)/Greenwich Mean Time)



It occurred to me
only this morning
what a major shift in consciousness
it was for humankind to switch
to experiencing music mostly from recordings

Only one hundred years ago
—– music boxes?
Even those have their organic reality

You know things are changing
when you attend a sitar concert
and they’re using one of those electronic
drone boxes rather than a tanpura

Lewis Winn(guitar) and Jon Gagan(bass) at old Outpost

In days gone by these two had a very active duet thing going on, now they live two cities apart, a tale of two cities: Santa Fe and Albuquerque — Lewis Winn(guitar) and Jon Gagan(bass) at old Outpost — June 16, 1997 — photo by Mark Weber —- Jon will be bringing a group into the new Outpost this coming December 7 that includes a quintet of Santa Fe hotshots (Pat Malone on guitar!)

Byron Stripling Trio w/ David Parlato(bass) & Gerald Wiggins(piano) — old Outpost — May 24, 1999 — photo by Mark Weber

Afternoon session at old Outpost -- Paul Plimley of Vancouver BC and Mark Weaver of Albuquerque

Afternoon session at old Outpost — Paul Plimley of Vancouver BC and Mark Weaver of Albuquerque —- October 22, 1998 — photo by Mark Weber —- two of my favorite musicians

Kitty & Dick Trask, dearly departed

Kitty & Dick Trask, dearly departed —- Dick grew up in NYC and was a denizen of 52nd Street in the good old days, they moved here to Albuquerque in the 60s with the aerospace industry, which was Dick’s bread & butter — He had the absolute genius of playing his alto saxophone with complete abandon & joy —- photo by Mark Weber — August 25, 2000

Joe Maneri Trio w/ his son Matt (electric 6-string violin) and Randy Peterson(drumset) at Biblios Bookstore, 317 Church Street

Joe Maneri Trio w/ his son Matt (electric 6-string violin) and Randy Peterson(drumset) at Biblios Bookstore, 317 Church Street, way down yonder in SoHo — June 28, 1997 — such interesting music, the maestro of microtones visiting NYC from Boston —– It was a very warm summer evening and I remember getting lost afterwards as the subway stations down there close after-hours, and I wandered around for more than an hour looking for a subway station to make it back up to Upper West Side where I was staying at Janet’s sisters digs — photo by Mark Weber — It’s dark in SoHo that time of night, very eerie, (I have a variety of spatial dyslexia where I can’t tell north from south — Max Roach had it, too —- A few days later I got to talking with an psychic who told me that it’s something in the rocks under southern Manhattan that was screwing up my sense of direction —- It seriously effects me, especially in that locale)

We're standing outside the old Outpost on Morningside

People of a certain age will know the legendary Lanny MacDonald, pianist, singer, raconteur, and lounge act (cruise ships, etc), and poet Todd Moore — We’re standing outside the old Outpost on Morningside, that colorfully painting building behind them on Central (aka Rt.66) is an antique shop Cowboys & Indians where Todd worked for about a year, funny gig for Todd, but he needed to get his Social Security together and needed a few more points, so he worked that out selling old western collectibles —– Lanny had just regaled us with his story of the time in Chicago that Charlie Parker had wrangled ten bucks out of him — photo by Mark Weber — September 10, 1999 Albuquerque

Roberto Miranda, Horace Tapscott, Frank Morgan

Roberto Miranda, Horace Tapscott, Frank Morgan — upstairs at old Outpost Performance Space where Roberto & Horace were in town for a concert of duets —- Frank lived in Placitas at the time and came by for a visit —- February 14, 1998 — photo by Mark Weber —– Earlier in the day after Horace had tried out the Steinway I asked how he liked that piano, and he said, “Yeh. I like it. Wood,” in that elliptical way he spoke those years (as he got older he seemed to get more verbose).

Sarah Cahill solo piano music of Ruth Crawford Seeger, from San Francisco

Sarah Cahill solo piano music of Ruth Crawford Seeger, from San Francisco, brought to town under the auspices of Steve Peters/Nonsequitir, and what a revelation to hear this deeply quiet music, I’ve been a devotee ever since, Ruth also composed some fantastic chamber pieces, as well, for years I’ve been playing her arrangements in the Lomax BEST LOVED AMERICAN FOLKS SONGS (1947) not knowing there was this deep well behind all that —- (I’ve often wondered if Sarah is related to that turkey Police Chief Cahill who menaced the Haight Ashbury community in the 60s?) Then again, there’s other Cahill’s, like the historian Thomas Cahill who’s books I can recommend, like SAILING THE WINE DARK SEA about ancient Greeks, and the one where Irish monks save civilization —- Photo by Mark Weber at old Outpost, Albuquerque, October 17, 1998 —- When the late Mike Seeger played the Outpost a few years ago I told him how much his mother’s music means to me.

Dexter -- December 23, 1976 at The Lighthouse, Hermosa Beach

Dexter was a lot of fun these years of his “return” to the U.S. (1976), it was celebratory, dramatic, heroic, his music was deep and his solos long and circular —- Long solos being a thing back then, almost avant-garde and dare I say: not always cohesive, wandering from one thing to another, sometimes they seemed like a bebop science lesson, but we loved it, again, it was the times —- (I actually saved a roach I smoked with Dexter that is now in my UCLA archive, haha — don’t tell the police) —- During applause he’d offer his saxophone to the audience —- I’m so glad for the many live concerts being made available from those years when he was on the road with his quartet, they are valuable documents —- Still, it’s the studio album MANHATTAN SYMPHONIE (1978) produced by Michael Cuscuna that is his masterpiece of those years, it is a direct hit, more contained, a pure distillation of the Dexter concert experience —- Dexter had family in L.A., so we had a lot of opportunities to catch him, George Cables was central, but we also caught Dolo Coker (pre-George) and Kirk Lightsey (post-George) —- Another of my favorite Dexter albums is the one he made just before his “comeback” and that was with arranger/conductor/trumpeter Palle Mikkelborg MORE THAN YOU KNOW (1975 on Steeplechase in Copenhagen) —- Notwithstanding his 1940s recordings that Bobby Bradford asserts were very important in the early bop days —- photo by Mark Weber — December 23, 1976 at The Lighthouse, Hermosa Beach

Bobby Bradford (cornet) and Glenn Ferris (bass trumpet) although, Glenn joked that it was actually a "flugelbone" -- April 1, 1979 Century City Playhouse, Los Angeles -- photo by Mark Weber

Bobby Bradford (cornet) and Glenn Ferris (bass trumpet) although, Glenn joked that it was actually a “flugelbone” — April 1, 1979 Century City Playhouse, Los Angeles — photo by Mark Weber

Butch Miles with Count Basie Orchestra -- February 17, 1979 -- Claremont Colleges, California -- photo by Mark Weber

Butch Miles with Count Basie Orchestra — February 17, 1979 — Claremont Colleges, California — photo by Mark Weber

Zuni dancers -- photo by Mark Weber

These kids were so sweet, after they had performed their dance, I happened to be walking behind the stage area in the Indian Village section of New Mexico State Fair, when they asked me to take their picture — after all that preparation and the very involved dance they wanted their picture —- They had been introduced as Jemez Pueblo dancers but they explained to me that they are actually from Zuni and that their neighbors at Jemez were having ceremonies this week and couldn’t be at the Fair, so the Zuni dancers agreed to dance the Jemez version of the Buffalo Dance for them — September 11, 2017 — photo by Mark Weber

Tableaux New Mexico

Tableaux New Mexico — June 19, 1999 at a roadside diner called Disco Taco, Ruidoso Downs — photo by Mark Weber


  1. Every so often it need be re-minded that Jazz For Mostly is a combined effort —- “effort” not exactly being the right word —- The writing is mine, and the photographs: I’m the content schlub —- Cal Haines is the artist who grooms the photos > Reduces the photos from 2400 dpi to 72 dpi and sizing the frames to 758 pixels wide, elsewise these JFM pages would crash your computer for being too huge; also, Cal is a master of PhotoShop; for the most part I select the photos but many is the time I’ll ask Cal to look at Frames 2208-2217 and choose which Dexter best for our purposes; Cal also employs color restoration where some of the older images have drifted, see the lunch table tableaux above; Then, Cal, from his studio in Santa Fe, sends all this, along with the captions/legends to Klaus in Saint-Nazaire on the coast of France and Klaus sequences the page organizing it visually —- The beauty of this system is that Klaus, a graphic artist himself, sees all this cold, this jumble of content, which puts him in a position to see it all objectively, of which, by the time all the writing is done and the photos concurred, over the course of several days, we on this end are no longer objective —- Klaus assembles the whole pile how he best sees the reader to experience it —- You couldn’t work with two more better people.

    • Monsieur K.

      November 27, 2017 at 4:57 pm

      Thanks Mark for your kind words and CHEERS to you and Cal !!! ( well, we are a sort of an “intercontinental” dreamteam ! )

  2. I still can’t see the whole page and the comments are not coming through.

  3. Wow after I wrote the comment about not seeing all of the content, bam there it is….
    Mark and Klaus — a pleasure working with the team!

  4. Thanks to all of you – Mark, Klaus and Cal!

  5. —————————-playlist———————————
    The Ways & Means Jazz Radio Show
    November 30, 2o17
    KUNM Albuquerque

    1. Gerry Mulligan five saxophones playing a peppy happy-go-lucky “Turnstile” with solos all around: Lee Konitz, Zoot Sims, Al Cohn, Allen Eager, & Gerry w/ rhythm section Freddie Green, Dave Bailey, Henry Grimes — arranged by Bill Holman — rec. Dec.1957  released on cd THE GERRY MULLIGAN SONGBOOK (Pacific Jazz)
    2. Sonny Rollins Quartet  “There is No Greater Love” –11nov73 at KCET television studios L.A. w/ HENRY FRANKLIN(bass), David Lee(drums), George Cables(piano, who was living in L.A. at the time), and Sonny on tenor ——- released as “bonus tracks” on LIVE IN NEW YORK PHILHARMONIC HALL 1973 (Saturn)
    3. Dexter Gordon Quartet “Tanya”(Donald Byrd) — 2may78 NYC — cd MANHATTAN SYMPHONIE — w/ Rufus Reid(bass), Eddie Gladden(drums), George Cables(piano), Dexter on tenor, a very stately delivery
    4. Jazz a la Carte “I Found a New Baby” –27dec08 at KUNM Studio A w/ Dick Trask(alto), Richard “Doc” Rock(trombone), Kent Erickson(trumpet), Bob Delich(drums), and the great Wayne Shrubsall(banjo), Mark Weaver(tuba), Mark Weber(producer), Simon Welter(engineer)
    5. Henry Mancini “Swing Lightly” cd COMBO!  11-piece band w/ Art Pepper(clarinet), Dick Nash(trombone), Ted Nash(alto), Ronny Lang(bari), Johnny Williams(harpsichord), Larry Bunker(vibes), Shelly Manne(drums), Ramon Rivera(conga), Rolly Bundock(bass), Pete Candoli(trumpet) — 14june60 Hollywood
    6. Andrea Wolper “Song to a Seagull”(Joni) w/ Ken Filiano(bass), Michael TA Thompson(soundrhythm), Kris Davis(piano), Andrea(song) — circa 2011 NYC  —– Andrea, sometime resident of Taos
    7. Gil Evans & Ten “Nobody’s Heart” ruminative — 27sept57 NYC
    8. Stan Levey Sextet  “Extraversion” –6dec54 Hollywood w/ Zoot Sims(tenor), Jimmy Guiffre(baritone & arrangements), Claude Williamson(paino), Max Bennett(bass), Stan(drums), Conte Candoli(trumpet)(in the Stan Levey biography he says he never made a record under his own name without Conte on it) cd ZOOT SIMS COMPLETE 1944-1954 Vol. 4 (Blue Moon)
    9.  as previous  “Drum Sticks”
    10.      as previous  “West Coasting”
    11. Horace Tapscott solo “As a Child” cd THE TAPSCOTT SESSIONS Vol. 8 (Nimbus West) no date listed but it does say that this track recorded 4 days after the flutist Adele Sebasian passed away — 1980s Los Angeles
    *After this track I advanced a little editorial regarding Trump’s tax bill that is being batted around Congress right now > “Isn’t that perfect —- Trump who has no respect or interest in intelligence or knowledge is now pushing a tax bill that will cripple student assistance at colleges, especially those in graduate studies and higher education . . .” etc — Horace would love that, he was very politicized
    12. Heath Brothers  “Autumn in New York” seasonal –Oct.2008 w/ Tootie(drums), Jimmy(tenor), David Wong(bass), Jeb Patton(piano) cd ENDURANCE (Jazz Legacy) —- Jimmy sounds beautiful, I sure wish the drums were higher in the mix

  6. It’s funny, my reply doesn’t seem to be posting.
    Just wanted to say thanks to you three – Mark, Klaus and Cal – fantastic work!

  7. Great photo of Dexter Gordon, Mark! Threw me back to that Round Midnight movie
    set in Paris. Your photo captures the mood he could weave when blowing his horn.
    Many thanks, man

  8. —————————playlist——————–
    Thursday jazz show
    December 7, 2o17
    KUNM Albuquerque

    1. Dave Brubeck Quartet “Someday My Prince Will Come” –15dec61 — cd COUNTDOWN: TIME IN OUTER SPACE (Col.)
    2. Mundell Lowe Trio “On the Trail” — 10nov77 cd SOUVENIRS w/ Nick Ceroli(drums), Bob Magnussen(bass), Mundell playing both guitar parts (over-dubbed) Rest in Peace: Mundell got away from us last Saturday (Dec.2) age 95 in San Diego —————
    3. JJ Johnson Quintet “Tumbling Tumbleweeds” — 25july56 w/ Bobby Jaspar(tenor), Hank Jones(piano), Wilbur Little(bass), Elvin Jones(drums), JJ(trombone & arrangement) album J IS FOR JAZZ (Col.)
    4. Ruby Braff – George Barnes Quartet “Mountain Greenery” cd SALUTES RODGERS & HART (Concord)–1975 **When I came on mike after this Ruby track I miss-identified the date as “December 9” haha, spaced out as usual————-
    5. Hampton Hawes Trio w/ Stan Levey(drums), Leroy Vinnegar(bass), Hampton Hawes(piano) — 25nov58 Hollywood ——— cd THE SERMON (Contemporary) *****Slight intrusion: at about 3 minutes in there’s an audio mistake
    when I slide the fader up while previewing Jane Ira Bloom —– only lasts about 4 seconds —- We’re still learning that new board ——— The take-away: All you have to do is engage the Preview button but never the fader (Note to myself, of course)
    6. Johnny Hodges & Duke Ellington Lp BACK TO BACK “Beale Street Blues” w/ Harry Sweets Edison(trumpet), Hodges(alto), Duke(piano), Sam Jones(bass), Les Spann(guitar), Jo Jones(drums) —- NYC 20feb59
    7. Jane Ira Bloom’s new cd EARLY AMERICANS (Sono Luminus Editions) “Song Patrol” in trio w/ Mark Helias(bass), Bobby Previte(drums), Jane (soprano) —– July 2015 NYC
    8. as previous “Dangerous Times”
    9. Dave Brubeck Quartet “Castilian Blues” –3may61 —- cd COUNTDOWN w/Paul Desmond, Eugene Wright, Joe Morello
    10. Leon Sash Quartet “Sash-Kebap” Live at 1957 Newport Jazz Festival —- album on Verve split 50/50 with Toshiko Akiyoshi Trio —————- Leon on accordion; Ted Robinson(tenor), Lee Morgan(bass), Roger Price(drums) from Chicago
    11. Liz Gorrill – Andy Fite album COSMIC COMEDY (New Artists Records) Live in Greenwich Village —24march1990 “Another Universe” **** I received 3 calls over this long track which notions me to play more out music ——- I underestimate our listeners, they love this wild stuff (Note: Liz is now Kazzrie Jaxen)
    12. Lee Konitz Quartet “Lennie Bird” –22oct57 w/ Billy Bauer(guitar), Henry Grimes(bass), Dave Bailey(drums), Lee(alto) — 22oct57 (was 4 years and one day old) album TRANQUILITY
    13. Herbie Mann “Comin’ Home Baby” –17nov61 Live at the Village Gate ——— I referred to this music as a cultural anthropological document from the height of the beatnik craze when goatees, bongos, berets, black leotards, kohl eyeshadow, cigarettes, jug wine, sandals, serapes, blase attitudes . . . . . were on display for all the tourists visiting Greenwich Village to see the crazy beatniks —– I’ve always suspected that MAD magazine had its genesis in this milieu (they certainly did a lot of send-ups on the beatniks, even if they were from that demographic themselves: New York hipsters )

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