Space Age Greetings From Sun Ra

Sun Ra Omniverse Arkestra: Joe Ore, bass; Damon Choice, vibraphone & thunder drum; Steiner, electro-horn; Vincent Chauncey, Fr. horn; Tony Bethel, trombone; Michael Ray, trumpet; Eloe Omoe, bass-clarinet;  Danny Davis, Marshall Allen, John Gilmore, saxophones; June Tyson, vocals & dance; James Jacson,  bassoon; drumsets L to R: Craig Haynes, Lex Humphries, Samarai; Sun Ra, keyboards -- 15-piece band  at Myron's Grand Ballroom -- April 2, 1981 Los Angeles -- photo by Mark Weber ---- also, I believe Luqman  Ali was on percussion this concert because I remember he was a guest on Jay Green's KPFK radio show,  and I seem to recall Jay had something to do with the production of this concert (?)

Sun Ra Omniverse Arkestra: Joe Ore, bass; Damon Choice, vibraphone & thunder drum; Steiner, electro-horn; Vincent Chauncey, Fr. horn; Tony Bethel, trombone; Michael Ray, trumpet; Eloe Omoe, bass-clarinet; Danny Davis, Marshall Allen, John Gilmore, saxophones; June Tyson, vocals & dance; James Jacson, bassoon; drumsets L to R: Craig Haynes, Lex Humphries, Samarai; Sun Ra, keyboards — 15-piece band at Myron’s Grand Ballroom — April 2, 1981 Los Angeles — photo by Mark Weber —- also, I believe Luqman Ali was on percussion this concert because I remember he was a guest on Jay Green’s KPFK radio show, and I seem to recall Jay had something to do with the production of this concert (?)

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SPACE AGE GREETINGS FROM SUN RA

Sun Ra always said that the hippies were his ideal audience. I was certainly part of that demographic. His Arkestra had been in existence since 1948 (in Earth time) but it wasn’t until the Sixties that his audience grew. Just the sonic complexity and luxuriousness was enough to grab you —- and who could resist a band that played tympani, gongs, log drums, upwards of 3 trapkits, Rhodesian bells, bongos, Egyptian sun bells, cowbells, boom bams, and space lute? Sun Ra always reminded us to look outwards to the stars.

Today on the show I want to focus mainly on the late 50s era of Sun Ra while the band was still in Chicago and maybe some of the transition into 1960 when this communal ensemble moved to NYC. Already in place was the sax section of Marshall Allen, John Gilmore, James Spaulding, with both at Patrick Patrick & Charles Davis on baritone; add Lucious Randolph on trumpet, and Ronnie Boykins on bass (John Ore would join in NYC), and the master himself on piano whose arrangements these years are completely in the big band tradition but sound like no big band that ever existed — mostly groups anywhere from 7 to 12 pieces. A few years ago I walked into one of the big box athletic gyms and was shocked to hear Sun Ra being played at the front desk. I said to the receptionist, “That’s SUN RA” (it was one of the Delmark records) and she looked more shocked than I was, “And said YEH, how can you tell?” Well . . . . .

Sun Ra & His Myth Science Arkestra aka Sun Ra & His Solar-Myth Arkestra aka Sun Ra & His Astro-Infinity Arkestra aka Sun Ra & His Solar Arkestra aka Sun Ra & His Intergalactic Infinity Arkestra aka Sun Ra & His Omniverse Jetset Arkestra aka Sun Ra Intergalactic Research Arkestra . . . .

I first caught Sun Ra in November 1974 —- I lived in the Los Angeles area and when rumors hit that Sun Ra would be playing a week in San Francisco at Keystone Korners in North Beach, my friend George and I outfitted my 1963 Volks bug for a camp-out and caught the entire week of shows and slept in this car parked on side streets. (We didn’t have a lot of money. Most of the hippies I knew didn’t have money in any great amount.) Sun Ra even took the time to come out afterwards and talk with us. We were in awe. We had no special place to go (it was cold out there) so we hung around as long as possible inside the Keystone. I don’t remember too much about what we talked about other than that he was very patient and kind. I was lucky to catch his band many times after that. (I was in between cameras in 1974 so there are no pictures from this engagement.) I worked in construction these years which was seasonal (I know you were thinking: Just how did this Weber escape the work camp and go off on these pleasure excursions?) so there wasn’t that much work in the winter pounding nails. And the rent on the little alley house was only $60/month. The education of a poet should involve knowing how to build a house, fix a car, grow a garden, ride a horse, bake bread, sleep in the woods, know what QWERTY means, and survive jail. And yoga.

The names of some of his albums from the late 50s will give you an idea of what were Sun Ra’s focus: SUPERSONIC JAZZ (1956); WE TRAVEL THE SPACEWAYS (1956); SUN RA VISITS PLANET EARTH (1957-58); FATE IN A PLEASANT MOOD (1960); SOUND OF JOY (1956); SUN SONG (1956): JAZZ IN SILHOUETTE (1956); NUBIANS OF PLUTONIA (1958): MUSIC FROM TOMORROW’S WORLD (1960) (pls. click the titles to see the covers

At the Keystone we asked about buying some Saturn records and Ra told Eloe to go and get the records and he dragged out a steamer chest with the unlabel’d LPs in paper sleeves and he’d assemble them grabbing various white album jackets that had hand-colored abstract designs and the only way we could tell the LPs apart was by their matrix number, no other information: 5 bucks apiece. I could afford 6 or 7. AND I bought a few 45rpms as well.

When you asked Sun Ra for his autograph he always signed in cursive: Space Age Greetings from Sun Ra

Sun Ra Omniverse Arkestra -- April 2, 1981 -- Myron's Grand Ballroom, downtown Los Angeles -- photo  by Mark Weber

Sun Ra Omniverse Arkestra — April 2, 1981 — Myron’s Grand Ballroom, downtown Los Angeles — photo by Mark Weber

Sun Ra "other places of there" -- April 2, 1981 -- photo by Mark Weber

Sun Ra “other places of there” — April 2, 1981 — photo by Mark Weber

Two old school bopsters: Martin Banks and John Gilmore -- April 2, 1981 -- photo by Mark Weber -- (Martin was living in Los Angeles at the time and didn't join Sun Ra until 1988 ---- up till then he had recorded with  Lloyd Price, Ray Charles, Harold Land, various doowop, Witherspoon, Cleanhead, Dizzy, Dexter, Shepp, Booker Ervin, Freddie King, Hank Crawford, all of which was good preparation for Sun Ra music)

Two old school bopsters: Martin Banks and John Gilmore — April 2, 1981 — photo by Mark Weber — (Martin was living in Los Angeles at the time and didn’t join Sun Ra until 1988 —- up till then he had recorded with Lloyd Price, Ray Charles, Harold Land, various doowop, Witherspoon, Cleanhead, Dizzy, Dexter, Shepp, Booker Ervin, Freddie King, Hank Crawford, all of which was good preparation for Sun Ra music)

Arkestra in excelsis:  Is that Eloe Omoe, bass clarinet with Danny Thompson, baritone on his back?  -- April 2, 1981 -- photo by Mark Weber

Arkestra in excelsis: Is that Eloe Omoe, bass clarinet with Danny Thompson, baritone on his back? — April 2, 1981 — photo by Mark Weber

June Tyson in front of Omniverse Arkestra -- April 2, 1981 -- photo by Mark Weber

June Tyson in front of Omniverse Arkestra — April 2, 1981 — photo by Mark Weber

June Tyson and I think Michael Ray -- April 2, 1981 -- photo by Mark Weber

June Tyson and I think Michael Ray — April 2, 1981 — photo by Mark Weber

June Tyson and Marshall Allen -- April 2, 1981 -- photo by Mark Weber

June Tyson and Marshall Allen — April 2, 1981 — photo by Mark Weber

Arkestra channeling the forces of the universe -- April 2, 1981 -- photo by Mark Weber

Arkestra channeling the forces of the universe — April 2, 1981 — photo by Mark Weber

Sun Ra Omniverse Arkestra -- April 2, 1981 -- photo by Mark Weber -- Horace Tapscott told me how the Sun Ra Arkestra show up at his & Cecelia's house on 49th Street in the middle of the night driving 4 old beat-up cars and crashed all over their house -- this is probably the 17-piece band that played at Dorsey High School in April of 1969, their first appearance in Los Angeles, as reported by John Szwed on page 271 of his Ra biography -- Horace always laughed how they were so tired out and slept anywhere, down on the floor, curled up by the couch and on the couch and slumped over in easy chairs and all over . . .

Sun Ra Omniverse Arkestra — April 2, 1981 — photo by Mark Weber — Horace Tapscott told me how the Sun Ra Arkestra show up at his & Cecelia’s house on 49th Street in the middle of the night driving 4 old beat-up cars and crashed all over their house — this is probably the 17-piece band that played at Dorsey High School in April of 1969, their first appearance in Los Angeles, as reported by John Szwed on page 271 of his Ra biography — Horace always laughed how they were so tired out and slept anywhere, down on the floor, curled up by the couch and on the couch and slumped over in easy chairs and all over . . .

June Tyson & Sun Ra Arkestra -- Club Lingerie -- November 22, 1981 -- photo by Mark Weber ----  *My research assistant John Breckow has discovered that Club Lingerie was known as  Whistlings Hawaii back in 1957 when Ted Brown & Warne Marsh had a group there that year  aka Whistlings Modern Jazz Room, 6507 Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles

June Tyson & Sun Ra Arkestra — Club Lingerie — November 22, 1981 — photo by Mark Weber —- *My research assistant John Breckow has discovered that Club Lingerie was known as Whistlings Hawaii back in 1957 when Ted Brown & Warne Marsh had a group there that year aka Whistlings Modern Jazz Room, 6507 Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles

Sun Ra -- November 22, 1981 -- photo by Mark Weber ---- The presence of the Other was  never far away from Ra, he always looked hard to the ineffable, everything was spiritualized  for him ---- Even though there might be a space of five years between catching the Arkestra,  Sun Ra always remember'd me, it was quite mysterious

Sun Ra — November 22, 1981 — photo by Mark Weber —- The presence of the Other was never far away from Ra, he always looked hard to the ineffable, everything was spiritualized for him —- Even though there might be a space of five years between catching the Arkestra, Sun Ra always remember’d me, it was quite mysterious

Sun Ra & The Solar Myth Cosmic Jetset Arkestra w/June Tyson, Michael Ray, Marshall Allen,  John Gilmore, Martin Banks -- April 16, 1988 Cleveland, Ohio ---- This was the first time my wife Janet had ever  witnessed Sun Ra:  The large concert hall full audience of about 2,000 at Cuyahoga Community  College opened with the lights going down to near darkness, then a saxophone screeching like a pterodactyl amid horn section chaos, trombone wailing like an elephant,  giant log drum rumblings, you could see smoke (dry ice probably) Then > BANG BANG giant flames erupt  from a pyro device from stage left and right, smoke crawling close to the floor and standing center stage  with that lampshade hat, his arms outstretched, diaphanous robes swirling was SUN RA as the  Arkestra went into full big band intergalactic swinging furious blast-off ---- I looked over at my girlfriend (not  married yet, she still in med school) and her eyes were bugged out!  (Later, backstage when Sun  Ra found out she was a podiatrist he had her check his feet) ---- photo by Mark Weber

Sun Ra & The Solar Myth Cosmic Jetset Arkestra w/June Tyson, Michael Ray, Marshall Allen, John Gilmore, Martin Banks — April 16, 1988 Cleveland, Ohio —- This was the first time my wife Janet had ever witnessed Sun Ra: The large concert hall full audience of about 2,000 at Cuyahoga Community College opened with the lights going down to near darkness, then a saxophone screeching like a pterodactyl amid horn section chaos, trombone wailing like an elephant, giant log drum rumblings, you could see smoke (dry ice probably) Then > BANG BANG giant flames erupt from a pyro device from stage left and right, smoke crawling close to the floor and standing center stage with that lampshade hat, his arms outstretched, diaphanous robes swirling was SUN RA as the Arkestra went into full big band intergalactic swinging furious blast-off —- I looked over at my girlfriend (not married yet, she still in med school) and her eyes were bugged out! (Later, backstage when Sun Ra found out she was a podiatrist he had her check his feet) —- photo by Mark Weber

He switched hats -- this must be mid-concert (because he put the lampshade  back for the ending dance & chant) -- April 16, 1988 -- photo by Mark Weber

He switched hats — this must be mid-concert (because he put the lampshade back for the ending dance & chant) — April 16, 1988 — photo by Mark Weber

Sun Ra Arkestra at Koncepts Cultural Gallery, Telegraph & Grand, Oakland, California --  December 4, 1985 -- photo by Mark Weber -- that's John Gilmore sitting ---- 13-piece band  this night with guitar, double bass, six saxophone/woodwinds, trombone, trumpet, drummers, and  June Tyson, vocals, and Sun Ra on a baby grand and Yamaha DX-7

Sun Ra Arkestra at Koncepts Cultural Gallery, Telegraph & Grand, Oakland, California — December 4, 1985 — photo by Mark Weber — that’s John Gilmore sitting —- 13-piece band this night with guitar, double bass, six saxophone/woodwinds, trombone, trumpet, drummers, and June Tyson, vocals, and Sun Ra on a baby grand and Yamaha DX-7

Ronald Wilson, cowbell; John Gilmore, timbales; James Jacson, infinity drum ---- December 4, 1985 -- photos by Mark Weber

Ronald Wilson, cowbell; John Gilmore, timbales; James Jacson, infinity drum —- December 4, 1985 — photos by Mark Weber

Oakland tenor Ronald Wilson sitting in with the Arkestra this night, with Marshall Allen, alto -- December 4, 1985 -- photo by Mark Weber -- (Ronald Wilson made records with Ra in 1960 in Chicago among other jazz  dates in that town, so I guess he had migrated to the Bay Area) ---- Sun Ra has a lot of fun turning pop tunes into Sun Ra philosophical statements, as in "I'll Never Be The Same" this night, as well as Ellington's "Hokus Pokus"

Oakland tenor Ronald Wilson sitting in with the Arkestra this night, with Marshall Allen, alto — December 4, 1985 — photo by Mark Weber — (Ronald Wilson made records with Ra in 1960 in Chicago among other jazz dates in that town, so I guess he had migrated to the Bay Area) —- Sun Ra has a lot of fun turning pop tunes into Sun Ra philosophical statements, as in “I’ll Never Be The Same” this night, as well as Ellington’s “Hokus Pokus”

John Gilmore on clarinet -- December 4, 1985 -- photo by Mark Weber ---- I remember the time we caught Sun Ra at Keystone Korners (1974) that Gilmore sat at the drumset for long stretches playing a very minimal style (you could tell he wasn't a drummer) BUT hell's bells, it was John Gilmore, so we listen'd ---- in later years of the Arkestra, Gilmore had a set of timbales in front of him in the saxophone section

John Gilmore on clarinet — December 4, 1985 — photo by Mark Weber —- I remember the time we caught Sun Ra at Keystone Korners (1974) that Gilmore sat at the drumset for long stretches playing a very minimal style (you could tell he wasn’t a drummer) BUT hell’s bells, it was John Gilmore, so we listen’d —- in later years of the Arkestra, Gilmore had a set of timbales in front of him in the saxophone section

I didn't catch the guitarist's name ---- Sun Ra: What are those people called that travel between two  worlds? priests? mediums? clairvoyant? ---- December 4, 1985 Oakland California -- photo by Mark Weber

I didn’t catch the guitarist’s name —- Sun Ra: What are those people called that travel between two worlds? priests? mediums? clairvoyant? —- December 4, 1985 Oakland California — photo by Mark Weber

Danny Davis and James Jacson -- December 4, 1985 ---- photo by Mark Weber ---- after this  concert I interviewed Sun Ra for it seems over an hour (the recording was being done by KPFA  and the two young guys I relieved might have been John & Peter Hinds of Sun Ra Research -- I've  always wanted to find a copy of that . . . )

Danny Davis and James Jacson — December 4, 1985 —- photo by Mark Weber —- after this concert I interviewed Sun Ra for it seems over an hour (the recording was being done by KPFA and the two young guys I relieved might have been John & Peter Hinds of Sun Ra Research — I’ve always wanted to find a copy of that . . . )

10 Comments

  1. Jay Green owned and operated Poo-Bah Records in Pasadena, Mark. It was a reliable outlet for new music recordings, before he sold it and moved to Portland. His KPFK radio show was called “Straight, No Chaser.” That’s where he programmed the cutting-edge stuff, and assembled marathon record-and-interview retrospectives on Coleman Hawkins and Jackie McLean. It was Jay who presented Sun Ra’s Omniverse Arkestra at Myron’s Ballroom, and brought Ornette Coleman’s double quartet to the Westwood Theatre Playhouse, now the Geffen Theatre.
    As Bud Powell noted in a different context: The scene changes…

  2. Hollywood’s Club Lingerie building does indeed have a colorful history, Mark. It was Whisling’s Hawaii (not ‘Whistling’s’ as is often reported), where deejay Roy Loggins presented Sunday jams with Art Farmer, Frank Morgan, Wardell Gray, Hampton Hawes, Billy Hadnott, Chuck Thompson and Damita Jo in 1950. When Warne Marsh and Ted Brown held forth there, grad student/Marsh groupie and future novelist Carolyn See observed it “smelled of cigarettes and defeat.” The room changed hands often, becoming The Sundown, The Summit (home-base for the Terry Gibbs Dream, Band), the Red Velvet (Elvis’s favorite Hollywood hang), and Soul’d Out before it became the Lingerie.

  3. Bill Shoemaker

    May 28, 2015 at 5:11 pm

    Hey Mark. You may want to mentioned that Marshall Allen just celebrated his 91st birthday. He was in B’more Sunday with Spectral (Larry Ochs, Dave Rempis and Darren Johnston) and sounded great. Best, Bill

  4. 3 or 4 THINGS

    1) The photo labeled Danny Davis and James Jacson (Frame 34930) is it possible the alto is Eloe Omoe? Eloe was strictly a bass-clarinet guy in the Arkestra, but . . . . maybe he strayed over. My field notes are sparse but they do say that Danny Davis was on this gig. OR is it Danny Thompson on alto? which doesn’t fit because Thompson concentrated on bari

    2) Sun Ra died May 30, 1993 which is sometime around now

    3) Janet’s assessment of Sun Ra’s feet: He had corns and size 14 Keds tennis shoes — this was during the time his goatee & hair was died orange

    4) The Infinity Drum was carved by James Jacson from a tree that fell in the yard of the Philadelphia house they all lived in —– (he is also the artist who carved the sign over the door of Slugs Saloon on the Lower East Side)

  5. wow… how I used to love them.. wow, size 14 feet.. (Fred has 13)… love those clothes; I wish we all dressed like that! colorful, flowing, blowing with the wind..

  6. Thank you for sharing these memories and pictures. Please check out my book when you can. Thank you.

  7. My copy of THE EXECUTION OF SUN RA (2o14) by Thomas Stanley arrived yesterday afternoon and I laid up most of the night reading this staggering digest of what Sun Ra means to us: Thomas in page after page has voiced what I have never been able to find words for. Very eloquent and articulate and deep. Click on the name “Thomas” in above Comment and go to his website.

    • thank you, Mark…what a moment in Cosmic History to find oneself a part. 1974 would have been smack in the middle of Sonny’s “golden age”…the best performances of the most important songs by arguably the most powerful Arkestrsa. How fortunate we’ve been during our time in human form.

  8. Regarding the December 4, 1985 Oakland color photo:

    I had correspondence with the New Orleans guitarist Carl LeBlanc who was with Sun Ra from 1980 onwards and he says “the guitarist in purple is Bruce Edwards who often shared the stage with me.”

    *Carl has a great website

  9. ——————–playlist———————————–
    SPACE AGE GREETINGS FROM SUN RA
    KUNM Albuquerque — June 4, 2o15
    Host MARK WEBER

    1. Sun Ra Arkestra “Ancient Aiethiopa” –1958 cd JAZZ IN SILHOUETTE
    2. “The Lady with the Golden Stockings” –1958 cd THE NUBIANS OF PLUTONIA
    3. “El is a Sound of Joy” –Nov.1957 cd SOUND OF JOY
    4. “Searchlight Blues” John Gilmore tenor feature –1961 from cd BAD AND BEAUTIFUL
    5. “Star Time” –1958/1959 cd NUBIANS
    6. And this is my Beloved” –1961 cd BAD AND BEAUTIFUL
    7. “Plutonian Nights” from NUBIANS
    8. “Africa” –1958/1959 cd NUBIANS
    9. “Planet Earth” –1956– cd SUN RA VISITS PLANET EARTH
    10. “The Universe Sent Me” poem by Sun Ra –1982 — Lp THE SUB-DWELLERS
    11. “India” –1956– cd SUPER-SONIC JAZZ
    12. “Ankh” cd SOUND OF JOY
    13. “A Call for All Demons” –1958/1959 cd ANGELS AND DEMONS AT PLAY
    14. “The Exotic Forest” –May 1966 cd NOTHING IS (the complete college tour — ESP)

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